In the Red Clay

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True Crime #153

Buried deep in the past of a quiet southern town lies the legend of Billy Sunday Birt, the most dangerous man in Georgia history. A chance meeting one spring day unravels the truth behind the notorious figure and uncovers new secrets along the way."A wild tale of moonshine, murder, and mayhem" - Vulture2021 Webby Award Honoree, Podcast Limited Series

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  • NurseDiesel 1022
    Edge of seat story
    I listened while I drive a semi, it kept me interested & waiting for the next episode. Got a few notes: 1- Stoney talking reminds me of comedian James Gregory- no disrespect just his speech & dialect. 2- Stoney should be proud of this work & the legacy he leaves telling his father’s adventures. He clearly shows how his love for his father is how family should be, loving, kind and forgiving. Kids can’t pick their parents and we certainly can’t live down the past. 3-Did they ever uncover the buried bodies on the banks of the Mulberry River? Since the dogs didn’t find anything, what about the GBI or GPR doing more searches? 4- Stoney said his Mama’s name was Lee, was she related to the Sheriff Lee who took Billy to church for baptism? Good luck to Stoney & Stone with any businesses they run, I’m sure it’ll be a hit! Can’t wait for updates or answers to these questions! On to the next podcast! 5🌟👍🏻🙏🏻
  • meg wm
    Best podcast since S - town
    This is the best made podcast both content and reporting since s-town ( and that was the first ever podcast I listed to) I will be listening to this again soon . It is great ! Makes me want to head to the distillery in Georgia and visit.
  • Honey, you're pretty
    Amazing!
    I’m not sure what I was expecting, and what I found listening to this podcast exceeded anything I could’ve imagined. The story itself is every emotion, explained in a way that took me to all of them. A beautiful conclusion amongst the heartbreak and chaos of these lives. Thank you for this awesome work and for sharing this with people.
  • TDBraddy
    Wow
    Really good podcast. Stoney is definitely entertaining. However, Bob Ingram is not an reliable source. He led that old man to a confession and all his cases should be reviewed because this wasn’t his first rodeo.
  • JessicaAkaMom
    Two Things Can Be True At The Same Time
    I loved this podcast. Like may have said Sean has a knack for storytelling. But more importantly he lets the story tell itself and reveal that good and evil are not mutually exclusive. Humans are more than the best of their achievements and cannot solely be defined by their worst acts. This story is an exceptional example of how complicated we are.
  • oilfield conservative
    A Must Listen
    If you like true crime and know Georgia this is for you.
  • Drewjaven
    Great!!!
    I enjoyed this more than anything I've ever listened to! You are a phenomenal storyteller.
  • Connieanddennis
    Excellent!
    This is a great podcast. Sean does a great job of telling Billy Sunday Birt and Stoney Birt’s stories. The first season was great. The follow up season was just a great. I do hope that Sean and Stoney do have some more stories to tell!
  • Mary7338
    Wow!
    This story hooked me from the get go! Sean does a wonderful job laying out the story and how can you not fall in love with Stoney! Stoney is so genuine and authentic and Sean is able to showcase these qualities in a way that is not overblown. Stoney’s honesty about his father - the good, the bad and the ugly - is admirable. Well done! I’ve already been telling everyone about this amazing podcast! It’s a must listen!
  • megsmariga
    Enthralling
    Sean has an incredible way of relating to people and giving them the opportunity to open up, tell their story, be real without judgement. While he always fact checks and will challenge people if needed, Sean has a knack for any challenge to come off as genuine curiosity AND (key point for any interviewer) always asks the questions you have lined up in your head!! Stoney tells his story with the grace of a son who knows his father did things considered unforgivable, all the while still loving who he was. At a very young age, he understood his father was a human and not a fairytale superhero, unlike most kids. As a result, this allows him to tell a well rounded version of events. Yes, he’s biased, but he comes off as more proud of and concerned about his family’s honesty than anything else. Their dynamic together is captivating. The street smart, Southern frank, verbose Stoney paired with Sean’s journalist storytelling, nonjudgmental, and calm demeanor makes for one of the best podcasting duos out there.
  • doodlebug72108
    MUST LISTEN!!
    I live in Walton County and visit Winder often. This was the BEST PODCAST I have ever heard. I listen daily to podcasts but this was an amazing story! I cannot wait to go visit the Rock Solid Distillery soon. I finished this entire podcast in less than 2 days. It’s like a great book that you cannot put down!
  • goodgf1763
    This needs to be a movie
    I finished this in 4 days. It had me hooked from the beginning.
  • DHoyt41
    Capturing!
    Sean’s storytelling and podcast skills are second to none. In the Red Clay is the best podcast ever produced. Thank you Sean and Stoney!
  • ImagineThat79 (Darci)
    Very, Very well done! — HIGHLY RECOMMEND
    I believe this is the first podcast I have ever done a review for. I’m not really one to do reviews, but this podcast deserves one. I started this because I need a fill in podcast after I had finished another one and I had had it in my list for months, but never got around to listening. It is based in Winder, GA which is about an hour and a half from me and I thought “well, why not? Something somewhat local” and I love history and the stories of the south so figured “here we go.” You guys, I have listened to ALOT of podcasts and this one is my favorite bar none. Listening to Stoney is so riveting… the stories, the history and his love for his dad. I’ve laughed, I’ve cried, it’s such an interesting and engrossing perspective seeing it from Stoney’s eyes and also seeing how his views evolve from a child to an adult. It’s so well done. I went through so many emotions listening to this. Numerous times I had to remind myself, this is not fictional, this is real life! This podcast was not at all what I expected. I am so glad I finally gave it a chance. You should do the same. This is absolutely a must listen.
  • SReadski
    Beautiful storytelling
    Sean has such a beautiful way of storytelling. I love how he is so factual, yet how kind he is with his wording. These stories from Georgia’s history are brought to life incredibly eloquently, and as a Georgia native, I appreciate his hard work.
  • Big_B58
    Favorite podcast
    My all time favorite podcast
  • Myler bit man
    Great pod cast
    Love the show I’m hooked Stoney is such a great story teller would love to meet him and shown your not bad either!
  • Weldman Jones
    AMAZING!
    This blew me away and was so much more that I expected. Thank you for making this sir.
  • billthick
    Twenty stars
    Best podcast ever
  • H Weinstein
    Good and Bad
    An interesting story, told well. Listening to Sonny elaborate on past events I found myself recalling Mark Twain’s quip,” I’ve lived through some terrible things, some of which actually happened.” I don’t doubt that many of his recollections are true. Knowing a thing or two about the shifting nature of memory that people who study it claim, I do wonder about the effects of time and trauma on factual accuracy. It was disappointing to discover that the reason he was so tenacious in proving that his father didn’t torture anyone was because that was too much heartache for him to handle. His father was unequivocally a monster. Does it really matter what species of monster he was? Or which tool he used to destroy? Billy Burt was a liar. He lied to himself about what he was. He came to believe the lie. Then he lived the lie. This was the world Sonny grew up in. A world formed, fueled and funded by lies. Listening to him parse the moral and ethical contradictions that offend him when discussing the bad behavior of the thugs, crooked cops, and lying snitches that betrayed his father is truly stunning. To hear him say that “, my father was a good husband, except for the adultery,” is evidence that Sonny was a victim of his father’s evil, not a beneficiary. My exposure to the darker side of human nature is neither theoretical or naive. I have volunteered weekly in my county jail for the past 17 yrs as part of an inmate support group. I worked will the protective custody unit which included men that were accused of unspeakable acts against women and children. I have seen firsthand lives shredded and destroyed by lies, greed, violence and pride. There is no glamour to be found, only pain. Sonny seems like a really nice guy and he sure can tell a story. I hope he can find peace after all that he has suffered.
  • Rogueshadow023
    Amazing
    I moved to Winder as a teenager and have lived there ever since. I remember hearing few things here and there about the Dixie mafia and honestly just kind of thought it was a tall tail. amazing story Sean great job, and it’s great that stony turned out to be such a great guy even with the things that he saw going on around him
  • emannd1990
    Addicted
    I can’t even find the right words right now to explain just how amazing this podcast is or how great Sean Kipe. I’ve heard 3 podcasts from Sean now and each one of them had me HOOKED. I’m left here just wanting more. This podcast specifically is so different from any I have ever heard before. 10/10 recommend along with anything else Sean has done.
  • AR Brantley
    In the Red Clay
    Impeccable, professional, and laser-focused, documented look at a the infamous Dixie Mafia - through the eyes of the eldest son of the infamous Billy Sunday Birt and other law/legal officials. In Seasons 1 & 2. Sean Kipe has a true gift for guiding interviews and questions that sift through the “chaffe” and finding the important “kernels” of truth in a multi-leveled layer of murderous evil. A riveting, emotional, impactful work that is at both disturbing and, simultaneously, wonderfully transparent and transformative and redemptive. Truly a work that deserves national recognition for its incredible merits as fantastic investigative reporting and for the postive impacts on both the lives of families involved with these horrific times and for those who have listened - receiving clarity for the first time of “bits and pieces,” of hearsay and quiet speculation. Amazing. Simply amazing. Thank you, Sean.
  • jaclynwilder
    Top 5 favorite podcast!
    Loved every bit of this podcast!!
  • Blessed one I am/have been!
    Fascinating and unique perspective. History and crime!
    Perfectly produced. Kept my attention and hit close to home for sure. Fascinating and unique perspective from the family while balancing out the reality of these crimes.
  • LuvTCinMI
    You won’t be able to stop listening
    One of the best podcasts I’ve ever listened to!! Great story. Great reporting.
  • littlesmokie77
    Amazing storytelling
    Binge listened to season 1 and 2. Great listen
  • ed hi
    Hero from criminal.
    I don’t like the ending. The writer try to make you think that the criminal was a hero. A criminal is just that… A dirty thug. Nothing more, nothing less!
  • 00010si
    In the red clay
    Great story and narration right up until the episodes where you tried to make Billy a saint. Splitting hairs about who and how he killed people is a joke. The man was a piece of garbage and never should have been given the ability to visit with family in prison. I had a father that beat women and smoked crack in front of me as a young man. He was a horrible person who chose to have 5 children and polluted every one. He corrupted his sibling and nephews with his money and drugs. In my mid 30’s. Finally started to see clearly and hold him accountable. Now, I will tell stories in appropriate settings but would never try to convince myself or anyone else that he was a decent human being or somehow a good parent for providing food and shelter to his other kids. Two of my brothers and one male cousin have been to prison for drugs and beating women as a direct result of his tutelage and his daughter lives on welfare. The mother of two of his children lives in squalor and never had any kind of life because he groomed her at 16 years old when he was 30. I really hope Stoney can come to grips with reality the way I have tried to do and quit romanticizing his father. He really should be in therapy to do it.
  • wa500k
    Amazing.
    The amount of work and detail that you all have put into this is astonishing I can’t thank you or Stoney enough. Great job!!
  • yosugarface✌️
    Stunning work.
    This is by far my favorite podcast that I have ever listened to, and I have listened to a lot! Beautiful storytelling, exceptional honesty, and a magnificently complete picture. Thank you for sharing.
  • smoovman23
    I could hear Stoney talk forever.
    Emotional fore me. I have a similar background and it see a lot of similarities between Stoney and I. Great job producing. I wish there were more like this but good like finding a story teller like Stoney.
  • THEE1SCOTT
    A Great Take
    Please, more stories. Your podcast was worth every second. Thank you.
  • banjoplayer0506
    Great Job
    i'm not finished yet, but it's so unbelievable & yet, completely believable!! i've passed this on to almost everyone i know in the great state of Georgia & i think we could be addicted ~ never mind crack! this is a high everytime you start a new sentence!! amazing just can't get enough!!👍
  • Crwilki2
    So captivating
    I’ve listed to many, many podcasts and this is one of my all time favorites. So well done. Narrated to perfection. I’d listed all day if I could
  • OlivU2
    One of the Best
    I listen to so many podcasts and this is one of the best. It was interesting and emotional. You and Stoney painted such a vivid picture of the time, it was like you were there. Stoney is such a gifted story teller and I love listening to his accent. There is definitely a lot wrong with how things were done back then, but it was really interesting to see how the way of life was for the Dixie Mafia.
  • 2L8:)
    Great story
    Makes me miss my Daddy.
  • JulieBTifton
    Excellent podcast
    I couldn’t stop listening. Captivating story. I’ve recommended to everyone I know-
  • El757
    Remarkable
    This podcast is remarkable. It’s nuanced, deep and gripping. Might be the best podcast series I’ve ever heard.
  • jbearrrr
    The goat
    Best podcast I’ve listened to in a long time, if ever (& I’ve listed to a LOT). Beautiful story telling that teleports you to the time and place. Highly recommend!
  • jsgreene1
    Intriguing
    Growing up in the Boone area, this unsolved crime has always been unsettling. Glad to see things have come to light.
  • HELP4people
    But the host
    Is so condescending it’s hard to listen to the story.
  • DjJack
    Where’s the movie? 🎥
    This podcast is riveting, it’s told well, understood easily, smooth to follow- and Stoney is my friend in my head, he’s the kind of guy I would have lived to have as a father- already planning a trip to NC for no other reason than to give a hug and get a hug ♥️ So who’s writing the screenplay? I CAN’t WAIT FOR THE MOVIE 🍿
  • milla trilla
    Why God invented podcasts and black pills
    This absorbing podcast perfectly captures the paradox of good and evil and allows the story to be told by the subject’s son and “gen-u-ine” storyteller, Stoney. While the events and characters are incredible enough to make a great show, the redemptive power of a son’s love is the star.
  • 601roliz3
    Undisputedly the BEST podcast I’ve ever heard!
    This podcast has so many horribly intriguing stories that will leave you crying, cheering, and occasionally nauseated… but at the end of season 1 you will be evaluating your relationships, your life, and just maybe, after listening, you will decide not to take “too many wrong turns” at the proverbial crossroads of good and evil! Stoney and Sean, this is a work of art! Thank you so much for sharing this with the world!
  • ScareCrowA7X
    One of the best!
    I listened to the first episode and was hooked, next thing I know I am listening to the last episode and wanted more but there was no more and was bummed. It is well done and well researched there are some TC podcasters out there that need to listen to this series to see how a proper True Crime podcast should be done. Any True Crime fan will like this podcast and it is far better than Crime Junky or The Deck or any other ones that I have listened to. My top 5 TC podcasts: 1) Killer Psyche with Candice DeLong 2) True Crime All the Time 3) True Crime Garage 4) Undetermined 5) Felonious Florida
  • justalittleoldwoman
    Great show
    Sean tells a wonderful story. He manages to make terrible acts committed by ruthless men into a human story. I will always remember Stoney’s love for his father. I can’t wait for the next podcast!
  • Cndnation66
    Dare I say the best podcast I’ve ever listened to?
    Yes! I listen to podcasts every day and have for several years. This is the best one out there. I recommended it to all of my family and friends.
  • "E"2
    Amazing story of Gods mercy and forgiveness.
    One of the best podcast I’ve ever listened to.
  • @Chase A
    The loving hit-man
    This is a tragic story. The saddest part is that the majority of the listeners are going to walk away seeing Billy in a positive light. Perfect dad, loving husband, great friend, honest to a fault, ideal inmate, good Christian man, and he even killed himself for the benefit of his nurses. No justice is given for all the families he ruined but it’s very important they clear Billy’s name because he deserves it for being such a good man. The horror of the 50+ murders is so far in the background that you forget you’re listening to a podcast about a cold blooded killer but instead getting the story of a small town hero.
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