The Next Pats Podcast - A Patriots Podcast

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"The Next Pats Podcast" focuses on the NFL Draft and free agency for the New England Patriots. NBC Sports Boston's Phil Perry welcomes guests and breakdowns every aspect of the Patriots offseason, including free-agency and the NFL Draft.

Recent Episodes
  • Uncovering late-round draft GEMS for the Patriots
    Apr 9, 2025 – 00:45:49
  • Patriots give Drake Maye CORNERSTONE pieces in new seven-round mock draft
    Apr 2, 2025 – 01:08:48
  • Why Stefon Diggs will give the Patriots the JOLT they need
    Mar 26, 2025 – 01:09:30
  • Why Stefon Diggs IS a fit for Mike Vrabel’s culture with the Patriots
    Mar 21, 2025 – 01:08:33
  • Delivering a MONSTER mailbag: Who do the Patriots target at receiver now?!?!
    Mar 15, 2025 – 01:27:55
  • Patriots mock draft EXTRAVAGANZA: Mike Vrabel takes leadership over length
    Mar 6, 2025 – 01:05:56
  • Albert Breer: Patriots are working to build MIKE VRABEL'S VISION -- and not Eliot Wolf's -- for the team
    Feb 28, 2025 – 00:24:11
  • Combine BUZZ: Why Travis Hunter could get to the Patriots at 4
    Feb 27, 2025 – 00:47:52
  • Combine buzz: Mike Vrabel is willing to TRADE for a No. 1 receiver?!?
    Feb 25, 2025 – 00:33:35
  • NFL Scouting Combine: Under the radar names to know
    Feb 22, 2025 – 01:11:41
  • Wait... It could take YEARS to rebuild the Patriots offensive line?!?
    Feb 20, 2025 – 00:53:04
  • Still PLAYMAKERS for the Patriots to pursue if Tee Higgins stays put
    Feb 18, 2025 – 00:37:25
  • Mike Vrabel's BIGGEST challenge this offseason
    Feb 14, 2025 – 00:43:19
  • Kurt Warner explains why Drake Maye was INCREDIBLY IMPRESSIVE as a rookie
    Feb 12, 2025 – 00:45:10
  • Christian Gonzalez: "I ain't even SCRATCHED THE SURFACE"
    Feb 10, 2025 – 00:19:19
  • NFL Insiders: Drake Maye is ABSOLUTELY a draw for free agents
    Feb 7, 2025 – 00:29:13
  • EXCLUSIVE: Drake Maye FIRED UP to work with Josh McDaniels
    Feb 6, 2025 – 00:21:11
  • Former GM: Patriots setup has to be UNEASY for Eliot Wolf
    Feb 5, 2025 – 00:35:20
  • MAKE THE CALL! Why the Patriots should trade for Myles Garrett
    Feb 3, 2025 – 00:34:00
  • Why Josh McDaniels is the PERFECT hire for Drake Maye
    Jan 29, 2025 – 00:37:28
  • Mock Draft extravaganza! Mike Vrabel gives Drake Maye a BEAST in the first round
    Jan 23, 2025 – 00:38:49
  • How Ashton Jeanty became a tackle-breaking MACHINE
    Jan 17, 2025 – 00:52:42
  • Why Mike Vrabel has a REAL advantage over Ben Johnson in Patriots search
    Jan 8, 2025 – 00:43:20
  • Ten College Football Playoff STUDS for the Patriots
    Dec 21, 2024 – 00:43:17
  • Why Tee Higgins has to be THE PRIORITY for the Patriots
    Dec 13, 2024 – 00:39:56
  • Why 'sexy' decision is the right one for the Patriots in the draft
    Dec 4, 2024 – 00:45:16
  • How the Patriots can land two EXPLOSIVE weapons for Drake Maye
    Nov 27, 2024 – 00:32:36
  • McCourty: Designed runs for Drake Maye will cause defenses PROBLEMS
    Nov 20, 2024 – 00:31:09
  • Rob Ninkovich: "The future in New England is bright" with Drake Maye at QB
    Nov 14, 2024 – 00:40:47
  • SHOCKING stats show where Drake Maye is better than Caleb Williams
    Nov 7, 2024 – 00:36:00
  • Hall of Famer IMPRESSED by early returns on Drake Maye
    Oct 29, 2024 – 00:31:57
  • Mailbag! Why Jerod Mayo isn’t going anywhere any time soon
    Oct 25, 2024 – 00:26:00
  • Louis Riddick explains why Drake Maye could be one of THE BEST
    Oct 15, 2024 – 00:35:30
  • Patriots schemes are about to get more DYNAMIC with Drake Maye
    Oct 11, 2024 – 00:25:05
  • How Jayden Daniels blueprint can help Patriots elevate Drake Maye
    Oct 4, 2024 – 00:40:04
  • Drake Maye “wowing” in Patriots practice, plus a 49ers-Patriots preview
    Sep 26, 2024 – 00:47:05
  • Patriots found a BEAST for their offensive line
    Sep 13, 2024 – 00:37:48
  • Patriots plan to drive quarterbacks crazy with CONTROLLED CHAOS
    Sep 5, 2024 – 00:37:09
  • Drake Maye or Jacoby Brissett? Jerod Mayo told us without telling us
    Aug 28, 2024 – 00:40:56
  • Why Drake Maye is HEATING UP as summer winds down
    Aug 22, 2024 – 00:43:14
  • Drake Maye shows off CANNON and COMPOSURE vs. Eagles
    Aug 16, 2024 – 00:23:43
  • As Drake Maye watches, Joe Milton electrifies | Next Pats Podcast
    Aug 9, 2024 – 00:26:12
  • Drake Maye showing an encouraging INTANGIBLE quality at Patriots camp
    Aug 1, 2024 – 00:30:15
  • Drake Maye flashes big arm, resilient mindset early in camp
    Jul 26, 2024 – 00:21:39
  • Ten lessons the Patriots can learn from the Celtics title run
    Jun 20, 2024 – 00:58:52
  • How Drake Maye flashed high-end potential during Patriots minicamp
    Jun 13, 2024 – 00:53:14
  • Drake Maye already seeing results attending new Patriots QUARTERBACK SCHOOL
    Jun 6, 2024 – 00:41:08
  • Why Drake Maye is PERFECT for the new Patriots offense
    May 30, 2024 – 00:54:00
  • Why Drake Maye is WIRED to handle pressure and other rookie thoughts with Jim Nagy
    May 22, 2024 – 00:51:13
  • Why Patriots fans will LOVE Ja'Lynn Polk
    May 14, 2024 – 00:34:50
Recent Reviews
  • Griffinr97
    One of the best in the biz
    Phil is a fantastic beat writer and excels at covering and speaking about the team. Very engaging host and one of the most knowledgeable Patriots guys out there. Must listen every week. Also knows a lot about the league in general. The king!
  • Expat Pats Fan
    Now Required Listening
    Hey Phil - I love your work. I was in the school of thought of Tom Curran that I didn’t care about college players until they started to work for the Patriots however, it is a combination of your due diligence and the Patriots going from Super Bowls to toilet bowls that this has become must listening. My suggestion for a future pod is instead of prototypical patriots when we look at prototypical ‘Marrone’ offensive lineman. He has a significant body of work in the NFL and we can look at his past drafts for OL to determine his skill at identifying offensive lineman. Keep up the good work.
  • miajdrummey
    Go to draft content
    Phil is a must listen for Patriots and NFL draft fans. He does his homework and gives you all potential prospects and scenarios. Phil is a must listen for the next few months leading to the draft.
  • PatriotsFan9580
    Question
    How likely is it that as a Pats fan from the late 80s (the first NFL game I remember watching was the ‘85 Super Bowl, and being the only one in my house up in Saco, ME rooting for the Pats) to see my dream off season shape up? The Pats sign Stanley and Alaric Jackson, sign Josh Sweat and Milton Williams, and trade out of four down to one of the QB needy teams and take Luther Durden in the first
  • Matthew in PA
    Long time first time
    Love the show and listen every week. Phil, is it possible that the recent Patriots draft/sign good WRs and somehow make them all worse? (With the weird exception of Jakobi Meyers.) -Matthew in Philly, grew up in Norwood MA
  • Lna.
    Best Pats Draft Analysis
    My go to pod for prospect analysis. Keep the episodes coming!
  • cje-66
    2Cents
    I love the Patriots turn of events — just when you thought Bill was gone, we get the rebirth. Vrabel is the essentially the same football guy, just not as grumpy and disdainful toward the press. Also really glad that Vrabel is signaling a focus on winning his “balanced” and “efficient” way — not trying to simply entertain the “throw it all over the yard” quant crowd. If I can’t have Bill, I’ll take the next best thing — someone who sees football and leadership the same way ;-) If this outcome doesn’t warm your heart, go report on one of the tight-pantsed coaches who continue not to win anything meaningful (i.e., 1 SB for just about 10 yrs of hype)… Welcome back Bill 2.0… PS: Now we need to have Eliot exited — no way he continues duck his portion of the responsibility for 5yrs drafting and personnel failure. He is the cockroach of personnel people — simply a mediocre or worse survivor…
  • CastorTroy39
    Awesome podcast
    Amidst a bad season this podcast keeps an eye on positive story lines for the future and not current season negativity. It’s much appreciated.
  • Brasco964
    Next PatsPodcast
    Always excellent content.
  • Rowley Ma
    Next Pats!
    Thanks Phil, keep up the great work.
  • TN Pats fan
    TN Pats Fan
    Phil, I love the 5 point plan you laid out for the Seahawks game. I love this podcast, you have great guests! Keep charging. TN Pats Fan
  • TVH2:37200
    Best Patriots pod in the business
    Phil is always spot on. Must listen every single time!
  • ChipfromCT
    Maye
    If the Pats coaches think Maye isn’t ready by game 1, why not put him on the 53 man roster then move him to the IR? The Foxboro flu buys them more time to develop Maye and takes away the fan and media pressure to play him.
  • Bscials
    Need More
    Love Phil and his insights. He seems the team and game from a lot of different perspectives! Need more content from him on here
  • Me hello 4444476
    Great podcat has great information.
    Podcast good
  • ubow3
    Great
    Well done
  • Juggernaught75
    The finest in Pats podcast content
    This show continually brings insight and context to the happenings around the Pats. Keep up the great work.
  • Valvane Jim
    Find a studio
    This whispering like ur recording in a library is ridiculous
  • kd1236
    Solid
    I will say more is less sometimes. I understand why shows would bank content from radio row, combine etc and post it 3-6 weeks later — but it comes off as stale and like you’re just filling a show because you have to. This show is best when it’s fresh.
  • Dave Pomerantz
    Great podcast, questions need more focus
    I always enjoy listening. I have two recommendations: for Phil to make his questions shorter and more focused. The windup is waaay too long. Secondly, and I know this is difficult, to challenge the interviewee with tougher questions so it's less of a lovefest. Thanks for listening and keep up the great work!
  • radtzo?
    Best out there!
    Have been listening to PFW since 2006 That & Boston radio is now TMZ This is by far THE BEST Patriots Podcast and it’s not even close. Thank you for all the hard work and effort you observably put into this Phil! The true fans appreciate it!!
  • cinemaze
    Film breakdown on an audio pod?
    Really?
  • Jarrod Grant
    Must Listen
    Perry is the best. Great insight into the team and what’s going on without the trolling
  • JDR141414
    Great Pod
    Phil - love the pod, especially because you always get really good guests that provide unique prospectives. You are also great at conducting organized, well thought interviews. One point of feedback would be regarding the “Pats need more explosive players at all cost” take. I agreed with that take 2 years ago but the roster has changed since then and it’s a stale take. It’s no secret that every NFL team would benefit from more explosive players, but it’s not like there is a surplus of them out there. How about discussing more about how the Pats can better use the explosive players they already have? That is a much more interesting and relevant thing to discuss.
  • Kevin - Worcester MA
    Always a must listen
    Can no longer listen to local radio analysis and commentary - 98.5 and 93.7 will straight up ruin my mood and waste my time. You never get that with the Senator - always credible, grounded and on point!
  • keith3516
    Best Fact-based Pats Podcast
    Love this podcast. Quality fact-based and objective analysis with high quality guests and interesting points of view. Must-listen for Pats fans.
  • Lakeshow2121
    Great pod
    Just an incredible Patriots pod. If you like the Pats and you’re not listening I don’t know what you’re doing. Do yourself a favor and listen. It’s great.
  • KBL2321
    Love it
    Phil is such an expert, this is the best podcast for all things Pats. Go Pats!
  • CaptFenway
    Great show, practice squad questions
    Thanks Phil - great show. Live in Charlotte, NC now but will always love the Pats! Can you explain how the practice squad works? Specifically, What does it mean when someone has “practice squad eligibility”? Can teams protect draft picks on their practice squad or can they only be placed there after they clear waivers for the whole league? Is there a limit for how long a player can spend on the PS? Always look forward to this pod - thanks!
  • J1mbo757
    🐐
    Next Pats is TOP TIER
  • MariaRose65
    Appreciate you
    Thx for the great insights Love the podcasts Love you on Zo and Bertrand also Maria from Upton
  • MrMac Boston
    Next Pats
    Love the show Phil Great content Stuff we don’t hear any other place Question…..where might the Patriots find a late cut offensive tackle currently on another roster? Bengals? Eagles? 49ers?
  • BradSohn
    Great Pod
    Phil’s stuff is outstanding. (And I would’ve sent this review in ages ago but I couldn’t figure out how to review a podcast!)
  • tyl3r130
    Love the pod!!
    We keep talking about how great our defense can be, but I’m worried about how it stacks up against other defenses in our division. I’m extremely exited for this defenses potential but there’s an argument to be made for us having the worst offense AND defense in the east.
  • jdunphy68
    Great show
    Still my favorite Patriots podcast as Phil digs deep to get true and thoughtful feedback on the newest additions to the roster which gets me fired up for the season. So a prediction and a question. The prediction is that we are going to look back in a few years and identify this current draft class as the most influential foundation building draft since before the early 2010’s when the second dynasty was built. Then just a random question….with the Pats likely having a new kicker and definitely a new punter has there been any discussion on how the new scoreboard and end zone closure will positively or negatively effect the kicking game in 2023. Keep up the great work Phil
  • Andy FDC
    Gonzalez v. Gardner
    Hey Phil. After hearing so much about Christian Gonzalez possibly lacking competitiveness physically and mentally, and that likely being the reason he dropped from projected top 10 all the way to 18, it got me wondering what was being before the 2022 Draft about Sauce Gardner’s competitiveness? How do you believe they compared as prospects overalls coming out of college? Thanks.
  • @pkusyk
    Dr Knowledge
    Phil, you are fantastic! I appreciate your sincerity and approach to getting the facts. Keep it up! I look forward to your pod every week!
  • KBattle33
    Top Shelf
    Phil is the best Pats reporter in the business A++
  • Qued63
    One of the best Patriots Reporters
    Hey Phil, Appreciate all that you do. Any theories on why we haven’t seen Juju yet? My conspiracy theory is that Bill doesn’t want anyone to see how he’s being used. Thanks man.
  • bmathers
    Awesome
    Love this podcast. Perfect balance of informative and entertaining. Phil is a great analyst and has the best insights.
  • casey Durf
    5 stars from me
    Been listening and following for years. Keep up the great work!
  • Long Island Pats Fan
    Great Podcast
    Love the podcast Phil I’ve been listening for years. . I learn a lot about football and how the Patriots operate by listening. In the hot take era, your analysis is measured and based in facts not narratives. Not sure if you were on the BC High teams that played Rutland(VT) High but that’s my high school. John Carpenter
  • michaelgferrara
    “Go-To” Pod for Patriots Content
    Great information…tremendous content. Subscribe! You’ll be glad you did.
  • Mal7355
    Killer Pod
    Killer pod with up to the date knowledge and feelings on our favorite team!!! Keep rollin’!!!!
  • Haak
    Phil’s analysis is always solid
    Have followed Next Pats podcast for quite awhile. Always enjoyable and informative. Phil is a detailed analyst and tells the bad with the good. Highly recommended for any Patriots fan that is more nuanced than just a “homer”.
  • clayman34
    Question belichick the GM
    Is a good way to evaluate belichick as a GM by who he did and did not draft from the east-west shrine game. Belichick and his staff were there and had the upper hand compared to other teams to evaluate these players. Who did they draft from this game/week and what other players at position of needs went around the draft pick the patriots could of drafted them. I think seeing where these player end up in a couple years would help grade belichick the drafter/evaluator. You did a lot of great work for the podcast during those week so I think this would be a great way to cap it off. Alway enjoy the podcast. Side note a perry barth podcast would be a must listen.
  • mek1954
    Always Enjoy Phil’s podcasts.
    Phil keeps pushing the offense. We focused on offense in free agency and defense in the top selections in the draft. When discussing running backs in the latest you left out Robinson who is a good running with a 1000+ rushing season.
  • Realm414
    Great Pod!
    Phil Perry is a tremendous resource of football info!
  • ramjam2011
    Decent Pats coverage
    I don’t agree with all of your takes. Nonetheless, overall I think this is a decent Patriots podcast.
  • mmmfruitypebbles
    Can the Pats develop outside receivers?
    Phil - Still loving the pod. You’ve mentioned the Pats potentially taking Quentin Johnston at pick #14, but even if you like his talent over the Offensive Tackle class, do you trust the Patriots to be able to develop any outside receiver? Have they successfully done that with anyone from the recent drafts? If don’t trust it. For my money, draft a tackle, acquire a wide out somewhere else. What do you think?
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